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Jarred Tinordi

The Arizona Coyotes scored early on Montreal Canadiens’ goaltender Mike Condon, and his team didn’t have what it takes to pick up the slack, as they dropped a 6-2 decision in Glendale.

Join Coach K and In This League Hockey Podcast’s Tony Healey as they try to make sense of what some deem the worst performance by the Habs this season.

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Once again, despite outshooting their opponents by almost a 2-1 margin, the Montreal Canadiens managed only a late power play goal from Alex Galchenyuk, while getting just a single shot for the second straight game from Max Pacioretty, in a 5-1 shellacking at the hands of the Nashville Predators.

Join Coach K, along with TVA Sports’ Matt Casavant and Kristina Ashqar as they try to make sense of another Habs’ lose, their eighth in 10 games in the month of December.

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After being blown out on Saturday night by the Dallas Stars, Max Pacioretty and the Montreal Canadiens look to get back in the win column against the Nashville Predators.

Join Steven Hindle, along with Steve Farnham and Coach K, as they preview tonight’s game against another struggling offence, as they are joined by Doug Praskach of Predlines.com from ‘Behind Enemy Lines’, brought to you by Telsys.

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With the Montreal Canadiens off to one of the greatest starts to a season in National Hockey League history, there is not much to debate, second-guess or complain about in Habs land. The Canadiens are the second team to ever win eight straight games in regulation to begin a season, and look like the team to beat in the Eastern Conference right now.

Though everything is going just fine on the ice, a question is starting to arise about how to handle a pair of young defencemen. In each of the Habs eight games this season, former first round pick and 23 year old Jarred Tinordi has been sitting in the press box with 25 year old Greg Pateryn.

Both Tinordi and Pateryn were kept in the minors for most of last season, and though they looked NHL ready, it made more sense to have them play big minutes in the minor leagues rather than sit out and watch games at the NHL level.

This season, both players are waiver eligible for the first time and can not be sent back to the American Hockey League’s St. John’s Ice Caps without another team plucking them off the waiver wire for nothing in return. This leaves the pair of defenders between a rock (Newfoundland) and a hard place (the press box).

Pateryn got into 17 regular season games with the Habs last season, suited up for seven more in the postseason and played well enough to make a case for himself to be a regular this year. Tinordi, after being selected 22nd overall in the 2010 draft, and coming in at a hulking 6’6 and 230 pounds, was projected to be a physical, shutdown defender on the Habs long before this season.

However, eight games into the season and neither player has seen a single shift of action. The fact neither player can be sent down has left the Habs with an awkward eight defencemen on the big league roster and just Paul Byron as an extra forward, while almost every other team carries seven defenders and has two extra forwards.

What has compounded the problem for Tinordi and Pateryn, has been the strong play of the six blue liners who are in the lineup. This has been a pleasant surprise for the Canadiens overall, but leaves 23 and 25 year olds watching each game from upstairs, which is not ideal for a rookie’s development.

Andrei Markov is coming off a five point night and is obviously not coming out of the lineup anytime soon. His partner, P.K. Subban is one of, if not the best defender in the league, and Jeff Petry is performing even better than the Habs could have imagined after dealing 2nd and 3rd round picks to acquire him last March. Nathan Beaulieu was once mentioned in the same breath as Tinordi and Pateryn as NHL-AHL tweeners, but his play has skyrocketed to the point where he is a huge part of the Habs success.

At the start of the season, Alexei Emelin and Tom Gilbert were considered candidates to sit out now and again to make room for the rookies. However, Emelin has played above expectations alongside Petry on the second pair, and Gilbert has settled in well next to Beaulieu on the third pairing.

Habs head coach Michel Therrien doesn’t like to mess with a winning lineup, and with the team undefeated through eight games, why would he? But on the other hand, how long can you leave two young, capable defenders on the sidelines before it affects their development?

This puts general manager Marc Bergevin in a tough spot. He has to be considering going all-in for a playoff run this season, but he has to balance that with the long-term goals of the organization. The long range picture wouldn’t necessarily have Pateryn and Tinordi as cornerstones of the franchise, but it would definitely have them in the lineup on a regular basis.

So should Bergevin consider moving one of veteran defenders which would be a hit to the current lineup, but could pay dividends in the future by developing Pateryn into a steady, reliable two-way blue liner? Would it be that much of a hit to this year’s team to ship out Gilbert and insert Pateryn into the lineup?

If a veteran is dealt, when an inevitable injury occurs that pushes Tinordi into the top six, but the Habs still have Mark Barberio in the minors who has plenty of NHL experience. Due to this depth, and with several NHL teams becoming desperate already, it’s time for Bergevin to strike and ship out Gilbert.

Why Gilbert? He is in the final year of his current contract, and the earlier his $2.8 million cap hit is off the books, the more dollars the Habs will have to play with when the trade deadline rolls around. Gilbert has played well this season on the third pairing, but struggled at times last season when playing in the top four.

Many fans would like to see Emelin as the one who is shipped out. However, he has three years left on his contract with a $4.1 million cap hit and a no-movement clause. This makes him less desirable to other teams, and if he wants to stay, he just refuses to waive his no-move and he stays.

Bergevin has worked some magic in the past to ship out future cap hits, and it was about this time last year when he dealt Rene Bourque and Travis Moen to free up nearly five million in cap space for this season. However, Emelin’s contract has two additional years after this one at a higher cap hit than either forward who was shipped out last fall, making it nearly impossible to find a taker for the Russian blue liner.

Trading Gilbert would be sacrificing depth, which is a rarity by a team that is atop the league standings, but Gilbert is easily replaced by Pateryn. This would improve the long-term fortunes of the team, having Pateryn and Tinordi playing more, instead of rotting in the press box. In fact, if Pateryn starts to play as a regular this early in the season, his improvement by the time the playoffs come around could result in a better all-around defender than Gilbert is anyway.

Though Gilbert likes to slap the puck around the boards, and doesn’t add nearly as many points as he once did, the perception around the league is he is still a steady, puck-moving defender, and a veteran, right-shooting, puck-moving defender is a commodity that teams are always in the market for these days.

Though the Habs would be wise to deal with teams in the Western Conference, you would have to think the Pittsburgh Penguins, Boston Bruins and especially the Columbus Blue Jackets would be willing to part with a draft pick or two to add a veteran defender. The Jackets just gave up a second rounder to hire John Tortorella, so the price tag for a number blue liner who actually plays games would have to be about the same.

Out west, the Dallas Stars, Chicago Blackhawks and Colorado Avalanche have high hopes and a dire need for some depth on the back end. Even the Edmonton Oilers are starting to have visions of playoff games dance in their heads and could use some veteran help so they don’t have to rush Darnell Nurse.

There wouldn’t be a huge return, a 2nd round pick at best, or possibly a pair of thirds, but moving out Gilbert now would allow for Pateryn to start playing regularly, which he has already proven he was capable of doing last season. This would also make Tinordi the seventh defenceman and give him the chance to rotate in and out of the lineup more frequently to get his feet wet as an NHL defender.

Not only would this be a huge bonus for the long-term fortunes of the team, there is reason to believe Pateryn can be as good, if not better than Gilbert as soon as this season. If there are no takers for Emelin’s huge contract, getting a draft pick for Gilbert, and replacing him with a player who has much higher potential is a win-win for an already undefeated team.

(Photo Credit: Jamie Sabau/Getty Images)

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Despite the 2-3-2 record the Montreal Canadiens sported in the 2015-2016 pre-season, there were a plethora of positives to take away. Their puck possession has been much better than in recent years and their specialty teams are starting to look much more effective.

But now comes the difficult part. Decisions have to be made prior to 5 PM on October 7th, and there are plenty of them the Habs have to make before the puck drops versus the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Tomas Fleischman

Has the former Ducks’ and Capitals’ forward done anything to discourage the Canadiens from offering him a contract?

Fleischman has not only played very well on David Desharnais‘ left wing, he has been a solid team player throughout the pre-season. Granted when a player in on a professional try-out with any team, you know to expect an A+ effort from him, since he’s playing to show his career isn’t done.

He’s scored, killed penalties, thrown the body….

If there were any questions about Fleischman’s ability to remain an effective NHL player, he’s answered all of them. Montreal GM Marc Bergevin should get a contract ready and get that bit of business done sooner rather than later.

Jarred Tinordi 

The 6’6″, 218 lbs defenceman has endeared himself with the Canadiens’ front office. He’s played nervous throughout training camp, and looks like his development curve has pulled a U-turn.

Tinordi’s size and occasional mean streak has been a source of hope for the Habs, but he has been able to put it together.

He continues to make the same mistakes by either pinching into the offensive zone at inopportune times, or making ill-advised passes in his own zone. The latter is due to his shortcoming in being able to play the game at the NHL’s pace, and reading the play accordingly.

His inability to use his long reach for better gap control and non-physical play have everyone wondering where his fate lies. Instead of playing to his strengths, he has tried to do too much and therein lie the problem.

Mark Barberio

As a native Montrealer, you know the former Tampa Bay Lightning prospect wear the ‘CH’ with pride, and given his 102 games of NHL experience, Barberio should remain with the big club.

His strengths lie in his position play and puck distribution skills, which would compliment the Canadiens’ offence nicely.

Barberio has been solid in his own zone, shows great play recognition, and rarely makes a mistake that puts his team in a precarious position.

GM Bergevin has often said he wants players to force him to make difficult decisions. Barberio has done just that.

Dustin Tokarski

As this picture from Bruce Bennett depicts, Dustin Tokarski has had a less-than-stellar pre-season and has put himself at risk of being sent to the AHL.

After his masterful performance in the 2013-2014 Eastern Conference final, Carey Price’s backup has looked more like a beer-league goalie than a professional one.

Diminutive for his craft, Tokarski’s passive approach to goaltending has become his Achilles’ heel. Instead of playing at the top of his crease, he remains deep in the blue paint, giving opponents way to much twine to shoot at.

Beyond that, his technique has suffered recently. His poor puck tracking often leads to him being out of position, unprepared for an incoming shot or, worst of all, with his back completely turned to oncoming opponents.

With the stellar and technically sound play of Mike Condon, who has been perfect in his 90 minutes of pre-season action, Tokarski may very well have played his way into the backup role…with the Ice Caps.

On this week’s edition of Road To Glory, host Nick Murdocco is joined in studio by Steven Hindle, Steve Farnham and Coach K, as they discuss some of the recent contract signings by the Montreal Canadiens.

Grant McCagg of McKeen’s Hockey joins the crew to discuss what upside the youth in the Canadiens’ organization can bring to the table.

Finally, Nick tells you what he thinks of jersey advertisements in this week’s #WhatBreaksMyStick.

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In anticipation of the 2015 NHL Entry Draft, and possible moves that can be made on the draft floor by the Montreal Canadiens, join Nick Murdocco, Steven Hindle and Coach K, who are joined in studio by James Stephan, as they give you their take on what may transpire.

We also got a hold of Gus Katsaros of McKeen’s Hockey to talk about possible Habs’ targets, and what can be expected from some of the Canadiens’ draft choices graduating to the AHL.

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Desjardins Post-Game: Habs vs. Blue Jackets – Feb. 26th, 2015

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For the second game in a row, the Montreal Canadiens got a pair of goals from a youngster, this time Jakob De La Rose, and left Columbus with a 5-2 victory over the Blue Jackets. Join Corey Collard, Kristina Ashqar, Steve Farnham, Sean Lloyd and Coach K as they break it all down.

The Desjardins Post-Game show on Montreal Hockey Talk is brought to you by QualityPlusTickets.com

Desjardins Pre-Game: Habs vs. Blue Jackets – Feb. 26th, 2015

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Join Steven Hindle, Rob Elbaz, Corey Collard and Coach K as they preview rematch from a week ago between the Columbus Blue Jackets and the Montreal Canadiens.

The Desjardins Pre-Game show on Montreal Hockey Talk is brought to you by the Peel Pub and QualityPlusTickets.com

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